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ZF74 Steering Pump

For High Pressure Ram Systems

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ANALYZING MANUFACTURES DATA

We look at the latest and most popular models of electric winches and pose the question:- What do these figures really mean?

The New WARN HS9500i Manufacturers Published Figures

LINE PULL LINE SPEED MOTOR CURRENT
0 KG 18.9 M/MIN 47 AMPS
907 KG 4.79 M/MIN 160 AMPS
1814 KG 3.60 M/MIN 230 AMPS
2722 KG 2.84 M/MIN 305 AMPS
3629 KG 2.31 M/MIN 370 AMPS
4313 KG 2.03 M/MIN 425 AMPS

Well, 425amps is not just a large amount of current draw, it is more than 5 kilowatts, which is enough to heat a small house......from a 12 volt car battery?

The Popular SUPERWINCH X9 Manufacturers Published Figures

LINE PULL LINE SPEED MOTOR CURRENT
0 KG 7.80 M/MIN 78 AMPS
454 KG 5.20 M/MIN 115 AMPS
907 KG 3.80 M/MIN 160 AMPS
1814 KG 2.30 M/MIN 240 AMPS
2722 KG 1.30 M/MIN 310 AMPS
4082 KG 0.60 M/MIN 435 AMPS

Okay it is marginally higher at 5.22kWatts, so the house would be a little warmer. So just how long are these winches going to work for and then what happens? Some manufacturers state "maximum 1 minute", others are a little coy and say "for intermittent use only" whatever that means.

The question I have a problem with is:- How can a little 12 volt battery, that has a problem turning an engine over for more than a few minutes, power a 4 tonne winch and pull the whole vehicle, up a steep hill or out of the gloop. I can see that it can because it says so above, but how come the isn't column to say for how long?

Alfred Murray Ltd H12/2speed Manufacturers Published Figures (ZF74/100PUMP)

LINE PULL LINE SPEED MOTOR CURRENT DRUM LAYER
2,680 KG 3.6 M/MIN 18.7 M/MIN 2 AMPS 5
2,909 KG 3.0 M/MIN 16.5 M/MIN 2 AMPS 4
3,363 KG 2.5 M/MIN 14.5 M/MIN 2 AMPS 3
3,860 KG 2.2 M/MIN 12.5 M/MIN 2 AMPS 2
4,700 KG 2.0 M/MIN 11.1 M/MIN 2 AMPS 1

No problems at all for the H12, 2 amps of battery power and the remainder easily provided by the hydraulic pump.

POWER CONSUMPTION EQUATION

TYPICAL CURRENT MODEL ELECTRIC WINCH

CHARGE - DISCHARGE = RESULTANT CHARGE/DISCHARGE
+65AMPS - 400AMPS = 335AMPS (NETT DISCHARGE)

H12 HYDRAULIC WINCH

MAX POWER = POWER AVAILABLE
1000PS1 = Up to 1000PSI
1600PSI = Up to 1600PSI

THE HEAT GENERATION EQUATION

TYPICAL CURRENT MODEL ELECTRIC WINCH

(AT 400 AMPS)
HEAT GENERATED = 2,000 WATTS (APPROX)

This heat is insulated by the electric motor's air gap and requires a long cool down period to dissipate. The winch is therefore only suitable for intermittent use, which under heavy load can mean just two or three minutes.

H12 HYDRAULIC WINCH

(AT 1000 PSI AND 1.5 USGPM)
HEAT GENERATED = 250 WATTS (APPROX)

This heat is easily dissipated through the hydraulic motor casing and further radiated throughout the circulating hydraulic fluid.

When a ZF74 high flow pump is used to it's full capacity, the heat generated may increase to 500 watts so an small oil cooler may be a consideration, which will provide accelerated cooling of the system, allowing the winch to be used for indefinite periods without any nett heat gain.



 

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